Because that post made me think. Mainly because, although love triangles generally don't faze me all that much, that example Meru gave of the whole Aragorn/Arwen/Eowyn triangle actually
did sort of irritate me, even though, like Meru, I ended up really liking Eowyn/Faramir (ridiculously cute, my friends ^^). And I think that what pissed me off there was just poor characterization. Because if you
do have a love triangle, your characterization has to be
absolutely solid because that pretty much creates the entire love triangle and defines the reason that the person in the middle MUST pick one person over the other.
And in the Aragorn/Arwen/Eowyn situation, that just wasn't done at all. Because Eowyn was known as The White Lady of Rohan, and by white, I don't just mean pasty and Caucasian, I mean that her heart was cold and white, like ice. She underwent so many trials; her parents were dead, the uncle who had been so kind to her once had been so reduced that he didn't even care when his own son died, she was in danger of being married to Wormtail, the man she knew was poisoning her uncle but who could not be removed from the king's presence. And so, because of all these trials, her heart frosted over, became cold, like ice, so that she could survive. And then, suddenly, Aragorn shows up and she's portrayed as this lovesick child, when she has been the ONLY real adult in the castle for so long. I think that 90% of the reason Tolkien gave for Eowyn's not even having a
chance at getting with Aragorn was that her perception of him was this childish fantasy of a brave knight, only that didn't at all click with what we knew of her personality. And so really, I think that, yes, Eowyn could have stood against Aragorn, I think that she would have seen who he really was, I don't think that, at that point, she could be blinded by appearances.
The problem, though, was that if Tolkien characterized her in the way that she really deserved, she would have been the more obvious choice for Aragorn. Not only because of force of personality, but also just because she had a much larger role in the books than Arwen, she actually
did a lot more, and, most importantly, she interacted with Aragorn a lot more. In fact, the only thing that really made Arwen special was the fact that she was ridiculously beautiful and that Aragorn had grown up with her.
Also, she was no threat to his overwhelming masculinity. And so, I think that that is where love triangle fall apart from me. I can deal with them, even like them if the characters are all well-defined and the relationships between the three are well-defined. Because then it makes sense that one would choose one over the other, and that it's healthier in the long run for all three. But I
don't like it when the author seems to have a bias and tries to fit the characters to that bias, thereby shafting one member of the love triangle in terms of characterization and
turning it into a contest of worthiness. Because love isn't about worthiness or how one person stacks up against the other, it's about what fits, and different things fit different people. And so, in the Arwen/Eowyn case, Tolkien could have left it just as it was, with Eowyn technically having more winning qualities than Arwen,
if he had made us understand why what was between Arwen and Aragorn was so much more powerful than what could have been between Eowyn and Aragorn. Love doesn't make sense sometimes, it doesn't function that way, and so the choice that makes the most sense on the surface can be completely wrong, but as the artist, you really have to do a good job of explaining why.
And I guess that's also what pissed me off so much about H/G. This idea that it
was a contest of worthiness, that somehow because Ginny had completely CHANGED and become Miss Superjock Susie Highschool Prom Queen Bitch, she somehow
deserved Harry more. It was like, yeah, on the surface, maybe it makes sense. But there was no interaction, there was no real REASON for it, just a bunch of surface characteristics and JKR's word that she's somehow Harry's Perfect Girl. Which just...no, no, I have to SEE what makes them click, you can't just say that they
should click because all the evidence points that way and leave it at that, because that's not how love works.
Even the sexual attraction reason doesn't work anymore. A lot of fans like to claim that Harry couldn't have gotten with Hermione or Luna because he couldn't think of them in a sexual manner, where he could see Ginny in that light. But, clearly, Ginny's being ridiculously hot came out of NOWHERE and if JKR had wanted to, she could have made Luna or Hermione suddenly appear gorgeous in Harry's eyes and it would have made just as much sense.
Not to mention, Luna, Hermione, Draco, Neville, McGonnagal, Dumbledore, Sirius, and Remus have all stood up against Harry's rage at some point, so that really isn't a selling point at all.
You know? We have more actual emotionally-charged interaction between Draco and Harry than we do between Ginny and Harry. And I think the problem is that you can feel the author, you know that JKR wants Harry and Ginny to get together
even though it either doesn't make any more sense than Harry and anyone else or it makes even
less sense than Harry and someone else, leading you to believe that the author must, for some reason, see Ginny as better than all the other candidates. And
that is where a love triangle falls apart. At least in terms of art. If that makes sense.
Also, you're all very ugly goldfishes. Just so you know. Bloop.